ESI Money

Three Simple Steps to Wealth

  • About
  • Earn
  • Save
  • Invest
  • Retirement
  • Millionaires
  • Archives
  • Subscribe
  • Contact

Millionaire Interview 202

This post may contain affiliate links. Please read my disclosure statement for more info.

September 28, 2020 By ESI 31 Comments

Here’s our latest interview with a millionaire as we seek to learn from those who have grown their wealth to high heights.

If you’d like to be considered for an interview, drop me a note and we can chat about specifics.

This interview took place in June.

My questions are in bold italics and his responses follow in black.

Let’s get started…

OVERVIEW

How old are you (and spouse if applicable, plus how long you’ve been married)?

I am 46 years old and my wife is 45 years old.

We have been married for almost 19 years (3 weeks away). From what I’ve read, I need to find her something bronze this year.

Do you have kids/family (if so, how old are they)?

We have three children.

Our oldest is 17 and will be starting her senior year in the fall, the middle one is 15 and starting her sophomore year in the fall, and our son is 12 and starting 7th grade.

What area of the country do you live in (and urban or rural)?

We live in the suburbs of a large city in Texas.

What is your current net worth?

$2,401,178 according to Personal Capital as of early June.

What are the main assets that make up your net worth (stocks, real estate, business, home, retirement accounts, etc.) and any debt that offsets part of these?

  • Cash $142,066 for 6% of total.
  • Company stock (RSU and ESPP) $259,254.58 for 11% of total.
  • Roth IRAs $332,770 for 14% of total.
  • Taxable brokerage $335,940 for 15% of total.
  • Tax deferred (401k and IRA) $782,223 for 34% of total.
  • House $471,000 for 20% of total.

Not included in my net worth calculation are the kid’s 529 plans. We have one setup for each of them that each have roughly 85k. They each have another 529 that my parents setup for them that has roughly 60k.

I include our house in the calculation because we will at some point in the future sell it to purchase our next house after all of the kids have moved out and we no longer need this space. Perhaps we will end up like ESI and decide to stay in the larger house and just fill it up with cats.

We have no debt outside of two credit cards that are paid off monthly.

Cars have been purchased outright since the mid 2000s.

EARN

What is your job?

I am Technical Solutions Architect with a large networking company.

My current role is on the sales side of the house with a large lean toward the technical. I still get to play with all of the equipment, demo it to customers, but get paid like a sales guy when someone buys. It’s the best of both worlds for me.

I’ve been at the company for almost 14 years and plan on staying until I retire and walk out the door.

What is your annual income?

My base salary is $142,569. With my role on the sales side, my total compensation is done with a 75/25 split. Base salary is 75% and commission is 25% so if we hit 100% of our sales goals, my total pay for the year would be $190,092.

Total pay can really jump when we go over 100% of our goals. For each percentage point below 100 that we hit, I make $475, but once we are above 100, I make a little over 5 times that much of $2471. The best year I’ve had since being in sales, I made 90k in commission.

Tell us about your income performance over time. What was the starting salary of your first job, how did it grow from there (and what you did to make it grow), and where are you now?

It’s strange the things you can remember from so many years ago. I started working at Kroger when I was 16 and made $3.80 an hour. Within a couple of weeks, I was promoted to a cashier AND the minimum wage jumped to $4.25. I thought I had it made back then.

The ssa.gov website paints a nice picture of earnings through the years:

  • 1991 — $4,026.00
  • 1992 — $2,853.00
  • 1993 — $2,433.00
  • 1994 — $5,436.00
  • 1995 — $12,171.00
  • 1996 — $13,628.00
  • 1997 — $12,819.00
  • 1998 — $34,535.00
  • 1999 — $46,315.00
  • 2000 — $77,210.00
  • 2001 — $63,120.00
  • 2002 — $68,763.00
  • 2003 — $66,328.00
  • 2004 — $66,592.00
  • 2005 — $97,871.00
  • 2006 — $112,360.00
  • 2007 — $102,527.00
  • 2008 — $124,742.00
  • 2009 — $121,820.00
  • 2010 — $140,314.00
  • 2011 — $153,811.00
  • 2012 — $152,014.00
  • 2013 — $152,981.00
  • 2014 — $158,442.00
  • 2015 — $167,810.00
  • 2016 — $206,687.00
  • 2017 — $221,369.00
  • 2018 — $201,069.00
  • 2019 — $179,531.00

Crazy to think that I’ve earned over 2.7M during my working years so far.

The first big jump from 1994 to 1995 is when I went from being a pizza delivery driver to an assistant manager of a couple of different pizza places.

The next jump from 1997 to 1998 is when I got out of the service industry and into a telecommunications job with Williams Communications.

1999 through 2001 I had moved to a different telecom position and was working a ton of overtime. I believe my base salary during that time was 38k.

2001 through 2004 was very stagnant with telecom companies dying off by the hundreds.

2006 is when I started with my current company, and things have gone well salary wise since then.

What tips do you have for others who want to grow their career-related income?

I have a couple of tips that I have used through my career.

The first is find a mentor early on. Bounce ideas off of this person when you are thinking about making a big change. They might not tell you what you want to hear, but I always believe that it is better to have more information to make a decision than less.

As you get to the latter part of your career, look to become a mentor. Working with people 15-20 years younger than you will give you a different perspective.

My second piece of advice is finding something you’re good at and that you like doing. Luckily, I happened to fall into the telecommunications world years ago and found out that I liked it and am good at what I do.

My bonus tip would be to ask for a raise if you deserve it. This is how I got my last raise and promotion. My boss said that almost no one ever asks directly for a raise, but it worked for me.

If you think about it from the company’s perspective, it is in their interest for you to keep working for the same amount as long as possible. You are the CEO of your brand and have much more interest in receiving more money than your company has in paying it. So ask for it!

What’s your work-life balance look like?

My work-life balance is great these days.

I have had the ability to work from home for many years now but have never taken the opportunity to do so. The Covid-19 virus has forced me to work from home for the last 13 weeks, and I’ve been loving it. Once things have loosened up and the office is open again, my plan is to work from home 2-3 days a week.

At this point in my career, I have stopped working those 50+ hour weeks. Let the young kids do that, and I will stick right at 40 hours. Sometimes I feel as though I don’t work enough, but the boss is happy with what I’m doing which makes me ok with it.

I am able to make gymnastics meets, band concerts, my wife’s roller derby games, and even find the time to get to play ultimate frisbee a couple of times a week.

Do you have any sources of income besides your career? If so, can you list them, give us a feel for how much you earn with each, and offer some insight into how you developed them?

We have no income outside of what I earn from work.

Dividends and capital gains are automatically re-invested.

SAVE

What is your annual spending?

From 2017 until 2019 we are spending close to 100k to 105k a year.

Through May of 2020 we are at 44k which looks to put us around the 100k by December.

What are the main categories (expenses) this spending breaks into?

  • 15.5k home related expenses. This includes property tax of 10k and utilities of 5.5k a year. No mortgage.
  • 5.5k for home and auto insurance. Adding in that first driving age child was expensive.
  • 40k on credit card 1
  • 3k in cash withdrawals
  • 3k in paypal
  • 10k in gift cards purchased through a program for my daughter’s gymnastics team that donates various percentages back to the team.
  • 5k in quarterly taxes to the IRS
  • 18k on credit card 2

I don’t go through categories on the credit cards because it would drive me crazy to do so. There are plenty of spots where we could cut back and a lot of those will happen once the kids are out of school and sports related activities. Somewhere in those numbers is at least 12-15k of expenses for gymnastics and high school marching band.

Do you have a budget? If so, how do you implement it?

No budget written down.

My wife and I talk about any kind of larger purchases probably 200 and above.

When we first got married, I was the one that handled all of the money stuff. After I accidentally made extra payments on some things, my wife took over, and I haven’t had to worry about paying the bills.

Over the last few years I have started keeping track of our spending, and it has been very consistent.

What percentage of your gross income do you save and how has that changed over time?

Since my gross income changes year to year with commissions, I’m going to use the average over the last 4 years of $202,164.

Using that number, we are saving right at 30%.

  • $13,000 for our Roth IRAs
  • $10,000 for ESPP
  • $9,100 for 401k
  • $28,800 into the taxable brokerage

The $9,100 for the 401k is 4.5% of my salary and doesn’t include the company’s match. That percentage is just the max that my company will match, and I decided that I needed to get more money in the taxable account if I plan on retiring at 52. I take the extra 9.5% and move it to the taxable account each month.

What is your favorite thing to spend money on/your secret splurge?

I really wish I had something cool for this answer, but I just don’t.

Any big trips that we have taken in the last 10 years or so have been large family events where we haven’t shelled out a dime. I know that we will want to visit many countries in Europe once I’ve retired, but that is a few years away now.

I do know that I will be buying a motorcycle in the next few years. My wife and I both used to ride pre-kids — she on a Honda CBR 929RR and me a Yamaha YZF R1. I’m currently trying to choose between a Yamaha MT-09 and Kawasaki Z900. If there are any riders reading this, what are your thoughts on those bikes, or should I be looking at something else?

INVEST

What is your investment philosophy/plan?

For the last 3 years or so it has been the basic 3 fund philosophy. I put money into a total market fund or S&P 500, total international market, and total bond. Prior to that it was very haphazard.

I got focused after finding FIRE blogs and reading them cover to cover. I discovered that in this area, the easy and simple way is the best for me.

What has been your best investment?

This is going to sound sappy, but I would say that it would be finding the right lady to marry.

She was the one that first introduced me to Fidelity and made me start a Roth IRA and putting money into a 401k. She doesn’t like to talk about money stuff, but she definitely started me down the path of saving money for our future.

What has been your worst investment?

I have never been a stock picker, so I don’t have a story about losing 20k on a stock or anything like that.

The worst thing I have done though is not utilize all of the time that I have had access to for investing.

Back in 1998 when I first had access to a 401k, I didn’t use it.

I remember one of the old guys (in his 40s :D) in the office stopped by where I sat with several other young guys and asked us if we were investing in the 401k. I am sure that each of us looked at him strangely because we had no idea what that was. He explained that we could take 3% of our salary and invest it, AND the company would match that number. It’s free money he said, and we would be stupid to pass it up. Being 24 at the time, I didn’t understand how this would help me, and I only saw that I would be missing that 3%.

The point of the story here is that I was stupid. I was stupid at that job in 1998 and the next job as well in 1999. I didn’t start investing in a 401k until 2001 I believe.

I invested in that first 401k for 3 years while at that company and then moved it to Fidelity as a Rollover IRA with around 35k in it. I haven’t contributed another penny to that since then, and it is worth 102k today. Compounded interest works, and I kick myself in the butt for missing out on it for 4 years.

What’s been your overall return?

I honestly have no idea since I have just recently started looking at all of this information in the last couple of years.

It has obviously been positive, but I would be lying if I threw out a number.

How often do you monitor/review your portfolio?

I look at the numbers in Personal Capital once a day. I don’t change anything. I just like to see them go up.

NET WORTH

How did you accumulate your net worth?

My wife and I have been lucky in that we have made a very good living, invested well, and have been gifted much that has made our plans a little easier to obtain.

My wife’s grandparents were big believers in education. My wife was gifted with roughly 100k in stocks before she went to college which allowed her to get through school with no loans. It also allowed us to put 100k down on our first home.

Those grandparents continued gifting their grandkids and great grandkids with the maximum allowed gifts under IRS rules each year. These gifts funded the first of the kids’ 529 plans and allowed us to put more money to investments.

Enter my father and stepmother who came into a large amount of money due to oil and natural gas wells on my stepmother’s family land. They also setup 529s for the kids.

Then came a very unexpected gift a couple of years ago when my stepmother told me that they wanted to pay off our mortgage for a Christmas present. We had about 9 years left with a $130k balance. Needless to say, it was the only time that I have seen my wife completely surprised.

What would you say is your greatest strength in the ESI wealth-building model (Earn, Save or Invest) and why would you say it’s tops?

I would say the Save aspect.

I haven’t always made as much as I’m making now, but we never felt like we had to keep up with anyone else. Saving money out of my paychecks first has been a priority for many years now.

What road bumps did you face along the way to becoming a millionaire and how did you handle them?

No huge setbacks that I can think of.

I do wish that I had not signed up for my first credit card in college. I got it for the free t-shirt and over the next few years had to dig myself out of 10k of debt. And then had to do it again a couple of years later.

What are you currently doing to maintain/grow your net worth?

We are trending to save more aggressively each year.

Do you have a target net worth you are trying to attain?

$2,424,242.42 (without the house included).

That math works at to a nice 3.3% withdrawal rate for 80k a year. My stretch goal would be 3M.

How old were you when you made your first million and have you had any significant behavior shifts since then?

I believe I was 38 and the second million showed up at 45. No changes in behavior for us.

What money mistakes have you made along the way that others can learn from?

Take advantage of any opportunity to invest when a company is going to match your money.

What advice do you have for ESI Money readers on how to become wealthy?

Slow and steady worked for me.

After reading through almost 200 of these interviews, I have seen that the people with the highest net worth are the ones that run their own businesses. I know that I don’t have the drive to make that work. Sometimes it’s good to know your limitations.

FUTURE

What are your plans for the future regarding lifestyle?

My plan is to retire when I’m 52.

My last kid will graduate high school that year, and I will hit 20 years at my company. I think it would be nice to take my 7 weeks of PTO and finish out that year.

My wife and I have talked about moving to a beachy area for years. Puerto Rico was high on the list until they got nailed by the last hurricane and earthquakes. At this point we are rethinking our island getaway.

What are your retirement plans?

Financially I think we will be just fine. I had never really contemplated how much dividends and capital gains will help us. The last couple of years we have gotten 35-40k from those which makes me think that my FI number could be lower. If those numbers hold up in the future, then we should be able to pull out less from our investments.

I want to play a lot of Ultimate Frisbee in retirement. Go watch some national tournaments. Learn to play the guitar. Travel. Ride motorcycles. I think about all of these things a lot.

My wife is looking forward to traveling. She would like to visit several countries in Europe that she has not been to and revisit some others.

We also have some friends in Australia and New Zealand that we would like to visit.

Are there any issues in retirement that concern you? If so, how are you planning to address them?

Just the big one of healthcare. I’m hoping that the US government will grow a pair and work to actually drive down prices of our healthcare.

Even if things stay the same, I think we are good.

MISCELLANEOUS

How did you learn about finances and at what age did it “click”?

Things started clicking for me after reading ESI and Physician on FIRE. I believe I was 43.

Who inspired you to excel in life? Who are your heroes?

I always admired my Dad’s work ethic.

He owned a small office machine repair business for probably 30 years or more.

I don’t think I have ever seen someone work as hard as he did throughout those years, and I didn’t think I would ever see him retire. He finally did though.

Do you have any favorite money books you like/recommend? If so, can you share with us your top three and why you like them?

I just finished my first money/retirement book by Fritz Gilbert “Keys to a Successful Retirement: Staying Happy, Active, and Productive in Your Retired Years”. It was a good read and leads me to believe that we will be all right in retirement.

Any suggestions for other books?

Do you give to charity? Why or why not? If you do, what percent of time/money do you give?

We don’t donate money often because I’m always worried that charities use it more for administrative costs than actual help.

I have donated blood and platelets for 15 years and am proud to say that I have given 8 gallons so far.

Do you plan to leave an inheritance for your heirs (how do you plan to distribute your wealth at your death)? What are your reasons behind this plan?

I don’t think there is any way that we will spend all of the money that we have. I know that there will be more money from our parents after they are gone.

Everything will be split evenly among the kids, but how exactly that is done will depend on how the tax laws are looking many years down the road.

Filed Under: Interviews, Millionaires

Don’t Miss a Post

ESI Money is about helping you grow your net worth. The path to get there involves three simple steps starting with the letters E-S-I. You can read more about the site, the author, and keys to becoming wealthy here.

You can sign up to receive ESI Money articles via email or by RSS. For email updates, simply enter your email address in the box below. For RSS updates, visit this link.








Get a free copy of "Three Steps to Financial Independence."

Comments

  1. Dsw says

    September 28, 2020 at 6:30 am

    Motorcycle comment:
    Depends on how you want to ride. Long trip travel: Honda Goldwing or Harley Ultra Classic which I prefer. I have traveled 3 plus weeks on it.
    Good luck.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 28, 2020 at 8:52 am

      DSW,

      Thanks for the information. I think this question is going to have more to do with my wife than me. Will she have her own bike, ride with me, or just not go. She’s told me that she has done her motorcycle riding in life already, and I just can’t see her as a passenger. Most likely it will just be me going on shorter trips. My dad had a Goldwing back in the early 2000s (bucket list item for him I think), and it was super comfy. It’s definitely something to think about should I want to take longer trips.

      Reply
  2. Adam says

    September 28, 2020 at 10:12 am

    Get the bike asap – the MT09 is great.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 28, 2020 at 3:23 pm

      Adam I wish it was that easy. The waiting part is something that I said I would do a long time ago. I wanted to make sure that to hit my number before getting it. It’s kind of like the light at the end of the tunnel for me. I take it that you have an MT-09?

      Reply
  3. Kevin says

    September 28, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    $2.4 million in net worth on $2.7 million earned. Very nice and well done!!

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 28, 2020 at 3:24 pm

      Thanks Kevin. A couple of nice long runs in funds has paid off.

      Reply
  4. Matt says

    September 28, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    Good story about how small decisions and time can provide large net worth numbers.

    I strongly encourage you to rethink your skepticism on charity. There is so much need in this world. All mainstream charities (read: any large charity that isn’t operated out of a basement) must file financial results- admin costs are transparent. The website charity navigator can easily show you what charities spend too much on admin. Pick any 4 star charity and you’ll can be sure that your $$ are not paying excessive CEO/admin costs.

    I’d also recommend Givewell. They recommend a handful of charities that provide the most good- they define the “most good” as charities that can save lives for the least amount of money. They estimate that donations to these charities can save a human life for about $3K-$4K. Knowing this information has challenged me to weigh growing our net worth vs. saving the lives of those who are most vulnerable.

    Something for you to think about.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 28, 2020 at 3:27 pm

      Thanks for the comment, Matt. Looking back it really does become clearer that the journey is a lot of small decisions that have built up over time.

      I have already stepped up a little bit on the charity front. My company has done a huge push in the last few months of making sure that we, the employees, know all the different avenues we have to donate to our causes and get matching funds from them. My wife and I have donated to some social justice issues that I hope will make a difference in the future.

      Reply
    • Whitney says

      September 28, 2020 at 7:09 pm

      I second Charity Navigator- an excellent resource for non profit research and transparency. My 9 year old son insisted on donating the entire $85 he made in a lemonade stand to animal conservation. He did his own research of several non profits on Charity Navigator and selected a 4-star organization with 90%+ of funds going directly to programs. (It’s rewarding to see the seeds of generosity that we’ve planted since they were born take hold!). I encourage you to continue to consider investing in causes that you care about.

      Reply
      • MI202 says

        September 29, 2020 at 7:44 am

        Thanks for the comment, Whitney. That was an impressive thing for your son to do. It is nice to see our values get passed down to our children who then can continue on with those values throughout their life. I will check out Charity Navigator.

        Reply
  5. MI 162 says

    September 28, 2020 at 4:00 pm

    You covered your income but what about your spouses income over that period of time?

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 7:50 am

      Thanks for the comment MI 162. My wife likes to refer to herself as retired from paying work. She went back to school back in 1999 to get her Master’s degree. She got that (Master’s in Computer Information Systems) just before the 2001 crash. So she had the degree but no one was hiring. So we started our family. She hasn’t had a W-2 since 1999 I think, but she did bring significant capital into the relationship that allowed us to put down huge down payment on our first house.

      At the end of the day, it has worked out well for us, because neither of us wanted to work just to cover the expenses to have someone else watch our kids. Her job is probably the hardest and it’s been a 24/7 gig for the last 18 years.

      Reply
  6. Your friendly weasle! says

    September 28, 2020 at 4:02 pm

    Nice work! There are some parallels in our stories, but you made it faster than I did, kudos!

    Bike related: I have ridden many bikes over the years (including the original KZ900.) I focused mainly on kind of quick street bikes, Ducatis, etc. Last bike was a heavy cruiser, but now I am riding a Honda Africa Twin enduro/adventure bike. I am really likeing it. 1,000 cc twin with about 95 hp, but around 7″ of suspension travel.

    It is quite comfortable on the street, and once you get the suspension dialed in (or upgraded) fairly capable on twisties. However, it excels where the pavement ends.

    All the little dirt roads that I used to ride by and wonder where they went are now open to me. I would occaisionally force a Valkyrie down a fire road, but you could tell it never enjoyed it. The Africa Twin lives for that sort of thing. 500 mile days are ok on the pavement; it is pretty comfortable. The suspension absorbs even the worst wash-boards and rocks on about anything that counts as a road. I don’t go too far completely off-road, but there are those that do with impunity.

    Just my 2 cents. Yamaha makes the Tenere series and of course BMW started it, with the GSA series, if you have brand preferences. The Suzuki V-Strom is a little more road-biased, but still has some suspension travel.

    The new old-stock AT’s are cheap enough, you could probably pick up two, if your wife found any interest.

    Cheers!

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 8:06 am

      Thanks for the comment, Weasle. I didn’t mention it in the interview, but for me Luck came into play a few times. The 529 setup from my wife’s grandparents and my parents paying off my 130k mortgage are things that I hadn’t planned for nor expected. But those two line items definitely took pressure off of us, and put us on a much easier path to our FI number.

      I find it funny that I’m getting more comments on the motorcycle question than anything else. It sounds like you have ridden a bunch of different styles of bikes. I’ve had two sport bikes and rode my dad’s virago 750 way back. I have only ridden Yamaha with the exception of trying out my wife’s 929 back in the day. I didn’t like the way it felt. When I get closer to buy time I should go test ride the ones I’m looking at. Heck they might not even be producing those in another 5 years.

      Reply
  7. gtmoney says

    September 28, 2020 at 6:18 pm

    Well done! You have saved quite a sum.

    A couple minor comments:

    I don’t understand the reluctance to include home value in your net worth. You said you included it because you plan to sell it. It’s a huge asset. Under what circumstances wouldn’t you include it?

    Also even more so for 529 plans. I have 5 of them one for each of my kids and 3 for niece and nephews. It’s at about $350k and I plan on doubling that before I retire. That’s a big chunk I won’t need to take out of my savings to pay for college, it’s absolutely an asset to me.

    I agree with the other poster. Don’t be cynical most charities are doing the absolute best they can to provide services to those in need. By getting involved you can even better understand how they spend money.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 8:15 am

      Thanks for the comment, gtmoney. I was wondering if anyone was going to call me out on the house thing. I include in my overall NW calculation, but my FI number I chose to omit it. I look at selling the existing house and moving that money to a new place as a transfer of the asset. Hitting my 2,424,242 number for FI without the house is what I want so we can pull $80k out a year. I can’t sell parts of the house.

      As for the 529 plans, we have 3 setup that we control that have close to 300k total. My parents have another 3 setup they control with another 200k. I don’t count any of that because it is earmarked for education expenses. We will use the first set that we control initially, and if the kids get through school without needing it, my parents will pull their money out, pay the tax penalty, and gift that to each kid.

      Reply
      • gtmoney says

        September 29, 2020 at 9:57 pm

        Sounds good to me!

        Reply
  8. JayCeezy says

    September 29, 2020 at 7:44 am

    I got hung up on “wife’s roller derby games.” That is the coolest thing I have read in a long time on a PF board. And the walkaway sold it!

    Continued success to you.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 8:22 am

      Hey JayCeezy. She’s been playing flat track derby for 7 years now. Unfortunately this year got jacked up and cancelled. I’m hoping they will be able to get back to it in Feb/March. Since she started, she’s had a broken nose, busted thumb, rotator cuff and bicep tendon fixed, and is currently recovering from a spinal fusion surgery a couple weeks ago that is not a derby related injury.

      I won’t forget the conversation we had after she got home from the first practice where she was able to hit other skaters. I believe her words were “I love hitting people”, and she’s been delivering those hits since. I’m not sure what part of the country you’re in, but if you wanted to go watch it, I can almost guarantee there is a derby league somewhere close to you. It’s a fun night of entertainment and typically cheap too.

      Reply
      • JayCeezy says

        September 29, 2020 at 9:07 am

        Awesome. I grew up on the L.A. T-Birds at the Olympic Auditorium in Los Angeles, bank-track announced by Dick Lane and sharing the venue with the LeBell family-booked pro wrestling. Flat-track is incredible to watch, it must be a blast to watch your Yellow Rose convert an Irish whip to a slingshot and deliver a high-hat greeting while dodging the ensuing slobberknocker and ring rash. I told my wife about your wife’s reaction on the drive home from her first practice, and she loved it! Hope she is healing up during this downtime. I loved your story, and your family must have a lot of fun.

        I can see why you consider your wife your best investment, and you can tell a lot about a person by the way they honor their spouse.

        Reply
  9. Maverick says

    September 29, 2020 at 11:29 am

    Sounds like an excellent perspective, risk tolerance, and choice of spouse. As an owner of three motorcycles (Honda Nighthawk, Harley Sportster and Fat Bob), I recommend you just get something you’ll ride long-term and go enjoy it safely.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 12:08 pm

      Thanks for the comment, Maverick. Reading through ESI’s interviews it seemed to me that lots of people made good spouse choices.

      I am really looking forward to riding again, and I will enjoy it much more safely than I did in my 20s.

      Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 12:09 pm

      I forgot to mention that just seeing the Maverick name makes me sad that the second Top Gun movie has pushed its release date again.

      Reply
  10. Phillip says

    September 29, 2020 at 2:30 pm

    MI202,
    You probably know already but just in case, check if your company allows a “backdoor Roth IRA” contribution and if so, contribute to the max before your taxable brokerage account. A number of tech companies offer this (like mine, and my 401k is managed by Fidelity).

    Reply
    • Your friendly weasle! says

      September 29, 2020 at 4:09 pm

      Phillip,

      Great input… there is also the back door Roth option on IRA’s that let’s you get around the income testing. Only catch is that there is a ratio test for IRA to 401k holdings. I was too lazy to move IRAs into current company 401k to fix the ratio and do it that way, a while back.

      Now, with a Tech company, I am revelling in moving after tax 401k contributions through the post-tax 401k into a post tax Roth 401k option, after maxing out the pre-tax bit. Almost feels like cheating!

      YFW

      Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 29, 2020 at 4:37 pm

      Phillip thanks for the comment. I learned the hard way about the backdoor ROTH option. A few years back I had put money into my ROTH and then realized I was going to be over the income limit. I had to call Fidelity to walk me through the re-characterization and then move it back into the ROTH. Since then we have just done the backdoor ROTH at the beginning of the year.

      Reply
  11. TennisFan says

    September 29, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    Congratulations, and I enjoyed your story! I had a question because we are in a similar situation. I was curious that you’ve decided to not max your 401(k) contributions and didn’t mention the possibility of taking a SEPP distribution to tie you over cash-wise through your early retirement. I’ve read some blogs that have have argued for maxing tax deferred accounts even in lieu of a lower taxable account balance. I didn’t know if you had gotten any advice about this or if it’s a decision you had made on your own to contribute as you are – favoring the taxable over the tax-deferred. Good luck to you and your family.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 30, 2020 at 7:11 am

      Thanks for the comment, Tennisfan. I would like to say that I am a financial guru and knew exactly what I was doing, but the truth of the matter is that I saw my 401k money growing by leaps and bounds. I know that we are going to need enough to live on for about 8 years, and the easiest way for me to fix that was to start redirecting money to the taxable account that I can get my hands on. I still contribute enough to the 401k to get my company’s full match so I’m not breaking any FIRE laws there 😀

      I will have to look into the SEPP and see what that is.

      Reply
  12. Waterboy says

    September 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    After lurking for several years on ESI and reading every millionaire interview, I must finally comment – because of the motorcycle angle.

    I am mainly a (56 year old) dirt rider (some moto and some enduro), but one of my bikes is street legal and i have ridden my fair share of street bikes. I would strongly consider one of the more street oriented Adventure bikes, not so much for the off road capability, but more for the comfortable upright riding position and versatility. Reading your interview you seem pretty street oriented, so this may not be as relevant to you, the MT-09 might be more to your liking.

    I test rode a V-Strom a few years ago and loved it. I will admit I am a Yamaha fanatic and would have to strongly consider the Tenere. The suspension travel really makes these things comfortable and versitile. Other great choices from Honda, KTM, and BMW, I wish I could own them all!

    I have enjoyed reading about the many paths that everyone has taken to reach the millionaire threshold. This ESI site is an awesome resource and has really opened my eyes to all of the options available to us to achieve our financial independence goals.

    Reply
    • MI202 says

      September 30, 2020 at 7:23 am

      Waterboy – thanks for coming out of the shadows for the motorcycle piece. I am definitely a street rider. The last time I rode a dirtbike was in the 3rd grade at someone’s birthday party. After riding sport bikes, I know that my wrists and back will not be able to take the body position of those bikes. The MT-09 and Z900 would give me a much nicer body position with enough engine to make it fun, but not crazy. I have not ridden either of them, but the only thing I don’t like is that neither have a big gas tank. I don’t want to stop everytime I see a gas station.

      I will look at some of the Adventure touring bikes just for the simple reason that they look comfy.

      Reply
  13. MI202 says

    September 30, 2020 at 7:22 am

    Waterboy – thanks for coming out of the shadows for the motorcycle piece. I am definitely a street rider. The last time I rode a dirtbike was in the 3rd grade at someone’s birthday party. After riding sport bikes, I know that my wrists and back will not be able to take the body position of those bikes. The MT-09 and Z900 would give me a much nicer body position with enough engine to make it fun, but not crazy. I have not ridden either of them, but the only thing I don’t like is that neither have a big gas tank. I don’t want to stop everytime I see a gas station.

    I will look at some of the Adventure touring bikes just for the simple reason that they look comfy.

    Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Search This Site

Social Media

Twitter

Instagram

Facebook

YouTube

Recent Posts

  • How to Retire as Soon as Possible (How to Retire in 10 Years)
  • Millionaire Interview 354
  • Begin Your Retirement Plans at Least Five Years Out
  • Millionaire Interview 353
  • Life in The Villages, Florida: February 2023 Update
  • Retirement Interview 41
  • The Four Retirement Groups
  • Millionaire Interview 352
  • 10 Ways to Invest in Real Estate for Retirement
  • Millionaire Interview 351

Recent Comments

  • Mary on How to Retire as Soon as Possible (How to Retire in 10 Years)
  • Debbie on Millionaire Interview 354
  • M354 on Millionaire Interview 354
  • M354 on Millionaire Interview 354
  • M354 on Millionaire Interview 354
  • M354 on Millionaire Interview 354
  • Financial Fives on Millionaire Interview 354
  • Mathy on Millionaire Interview 354
  • The Crusher on Millionaire Interview 354
  • Martin on Millionaire Interview 353

Categories

Archives

Copyright © 2023 · ESI Money · About · Disclaimer · Earning Notice · Privacy Statement · Contact