In both Why Another Financial Website? and How to Measure and Track Your Wealth I mentioned how the financial media often doesn’t understand financial principles (which is evident because of the terminology they use) and thus give out incorrect information.
Well, they do many Americans a similar disservice when they focus on return rate to the exclusion of other investing factors which, as it turns out, are both more important and more within our control.
But I’m getting ahead of myself a bit. Let’s start from the beginning so that we’re all on the same page.
Three Factors
As I said in Invest Overview: Fueling Your Net Worth, there are three basic variables that impact the total return your investments generate. They are:
- Amount saved — The amount of money you save every year.
- Return rate — The rate at which your money grows (this includes dividends and is net of expenses).
- Time — The number of years that your money is allowed to grow.
All of these are important, but which is MOST important? I developed a quick spreadsheet, ran some scenarios, and wanted to offer my findings to you. (But before I do, anyone want to guess which one has the biggest impact on the outcome?)
To begin this process, I had to make assumptions about a person’s saving/investing to get a baseline investment return. Here’s what I assumed our mythical person did with his investments:
- Earned $50,000 a year and saved 10% of that (or $5,000) per year.
- Earned an 8% total return after fees, taxes, etc.
- Invested for 30 years.
Using these assumptions, I found that this person would have $566,416 at the end of 30 years (FYI, I used this calculator to check my numbers.) In other words, $5,000 saved per year at 8% for 30 years generates $566,416. Pretty simple, huh? (BTW, I assumed that the money was invested at the end of each year.)
Next I started tweaking the variables one at a time, leaving the others the same, to see what the impact would be. I tried to pick increases that I felt were comparable. In other words, I assumed that it was just as easy (or difficult if you prefer to look at it that way) to save $1,000 extra per year as it was to earn an additional 1% per year as it was to save for five extra years. I’ll comment on how valid those assumptions are in a minute, but for now here are the results:
- I increased the amount saved to $6,000 per year. $6,000 per year at 8% for 30 years equals $679,699 or a 20.0% increase versus the original result.
- I increased the return rate to 9% per year. $5,000 per year at 9% for 30 years equals $681,538 or a 20.3% increase.
- I increased the time to 35 years. $5,000 per year at 8% for 30 years plus an addition 5 years of growth (but no extra investment) equals $832,251 or a 46.9% increase.
Consider the results when looked at as follows:
- When you increase the amount saved by 20% per year, your overall increase is 20%. This seems to make sense and be “fair.”
- When you increase your return rate by only 12.5%, you get a 20.3% increase in the total, a much better result.
- When you save for an additional five years, a 16.7% increase in time, you get a much, much better return — an increase of 46.9% total.
Quite interesting, wouldn’t you say?
Now it would be easy to declare time the winner, rate second, and amount third, but a few other things have to be taken into account:
- In reality, saving an extra $1,000 isn’t comparable to earning an additional 1%. Earning that extra percent is a lot harder (just ask mutual fund companies and money managers who spend millions of dollars to try and earn an extra 0.1%). So while the rate increase delivers more, it’s much more likely that you’ll be able to save more, thus I’d place the amount saved over the return rate in importance.
- Time saved really is the winner. In fact, if our mythical person saved for only two extra years instead of five, he would have earned about as much as the 1% increase in the rate and $1,000 extra. Therefore, IMO, it appears clear that time saved is the most important factor in investment returns.
- The good news: the two most important factors in determining a good investment return are ones that we have the most control over. It’s much easier to add extra time (by putting off necessary withdrawals and starting as early as possible) and the amount saved (increasing income/decreasing expenses to save more now for investing) than it is to try and earn an extra 1%.
- That said, you can’t buy extra time. You can keep extending it on the back end as much as possible, but if you’re 50 years old, planning to invest and let your money sit for 35 years isn’t a realistic option. So for older individuals, I think the amount saved is the most important factor in maximizing your investments.
- Yes, there are some flaws in this simple analysis. For instance, most people don’t earn $50,000 starting in year one. Thus it would probably be hard for them to save $5,000 in year one. Furthermore, investments don’t earn return rates in a straight line, they vary from year to year. Finally, I had to make several assumptions that will likely be different than the actual scenario for any specific individual. So sure, there are things that could be changed, but this analysis does give us a good view on the comparable impact of the three factors.
- If you do all three — increase the rate to 9%, increase savings to $6,000, AND increase time to 35 years — you really get a huge impact. The amount at the end of the 35 years grows to $1,294,265, 129% more than the initial scenario. That’s why people spend so much time trying to increase all three of these, because if they can, the payoff is really big.
Now, on a personal note, here’s what I’m doing to make these three factors as high as possible:
- I’m saving/investing as much as I can each year.
- I’m doing all I can to maximize my return rate by investing in index funds.
- If all goes according to plan, I’m not going to need to withdraw any funds from my savings ever. So time invested will last “forever” for me.
I realize that much of the information here is not new news to seasoned investors. But for those just starting out (especially new grads that have a chance to save for 35 years) or those unfamiliar with how investing works, I thought this information would be insightful.
Now back to the mainstream media. How many articles or broadcasts have you seen on how time is the most important factor in determining the performance of your investments? If you’re like me, the answer is probably zero (or very close to it.)
On the other hand, how many articles or broadcasts have you seen on “the seven hottest stocks this year”, “the best mutual funds now”, “how to earn a better return” or something similar? Probably more than you can count. The financial media seem to eat these up (I’m guessing that it’s because this is what “sells” and because it’s sexier than the truth — in addition to the fact that many likely don’t understand the facts that time and amount invested are so important.)
But they are not acting in the best interest of the American investor. Why? Because they: 1) focus on the least important factor and treat it like it’s the most important, 2) imply (or state outright) that the average American investor can get above average investment returns when the truth is that they can’t, and 3) encourage selling of old investments to buy the new “hot” investments (in hopes of a better return) which is actually one of the worst moves investors can make.
So instead of listening to them, simply save as much as you can for as long as you can. Invest in low cost index funds to ensure you’ll get a decent return. Then “set it and forget it.”
John B says
ESI, as usual, I really like the sequence of you analysis. It’s good to stimulate people to stop and analyze what they can do to improve their chances of a good retirement but its a long-term endurance rather than a quick sprint. I started out in the stock market and lost considerable monies. I don’t think index funds existed back in the 70’s. I don’t recall where i discovered them but at least i converted over to them and finished my stock market investing on a good note. As i’ve mentioned before i no longer put any assets at risk in the asset class: stock market. I’ve very grateful that it’s virtually impossible for me to ever outlive my assets. At this point i’m merely a custodian for a legacy to leave my children. I was also fortunate to be able to pay cash for my daughter’s education at a private college w/o borrowing in any fashion or having her take on any student debt. Got a late start on things but finshed strong 🙂
Again, ESI, thanks so much for the topic and your thoughts…always refreshing but wise.
ESI says
Thanks, John. I appreciate that.
I too started out stock picking, lost a lot, then went to index funds. I’ll write about those early days sometime.
I will also be covering the topic of college soon as I have one child ready to go and another thinking about it. It’s sure to be a financial adventure!
John B says
ESI, its interesting then that we both kinda started out the same way it seems in the stock market and are finishing the same way. It’s a small swipe at one’s ego to admit that they aren’t smarter than the “market”. Instead, by investing in index funds you significantly increase your returns by lowering your cost of trading. In a sense, its more like truly investing versus “gambling” by momentum trading or trying to make a lot of short term gains by thinking you know and can call the bottoms and the tops.
With your knowledge and financial acumen i’m sure the financial adventure you’ll soon be starting is probably very well thought out and just needs to be executed. Your kids are lucky to have such a financially savy Dad for a Father 🙂
I felt extremely strong to take on no student debt. Our family is very old fashioned and believes that the only time its permissible to borrow is when you buy appreciating assets. I’m so conservative that i don’t consider a college asset as an appreciating asset. Therefore, we paid cash for her undergraduate degree and she got a full-ride schlorship for her master’s degree at Colorado School of Mines so that when she graduates she’ll start her Job at Shell in May with no college debt standing over her. The Bible also says when you owe someone debt they become a slave to them, as an additional motivation to avoid debt on anything but an appreciating asset (or an investment).
Sorry, just got to rambling 🙂
ESI says
I’ll give the details later but the highlights are:
1. We saved enough for the kids to go to a good school and pay with cash (no debt).
2. We told them it is their money to spend. If they spend it all to get an education, that’s fine. If they go to a high priced school and need to take on debt, that’s their choice (we don’t recommend it). But if they spend less than the amount we have saved, they KEEP WHAT’S LEFT OVER.
My daughter will enter college with two years completed via community college. Her plan is to graduate with $30k to $50k in hand. 🙂
Jason B says
Looking forward to the future college post. That is identical to our plan as well (oldest is heading off next year to college – 2 more right behind him).
Our kids have been purposeful about gathering college credits in advance of college (via AP, dual-enrollment, CLEP testing, etc). My son will be entering with about 20 credit hours already in hand.
We too have put aside enough cash for each child to attend a good school without debt. My oldest managed to get a few full-tuition scholarships (thank goodness for great GPAs and test scores) and just recently decided on a great school which will end up costing VERY little assuming he can maintain the GPA needed for the scholarships. He could easily walk out with his degree in hand and a great start on savings or a house down payment.
Good stuff!
John B says
You touch on several principles that i believe all parents should incorporate. You encourage your kids to learn how to make responsible decisions and be responsible or accountable for the results. Because you include rewards for good decisions you are encouraging them to enjoy the fruits of good decisions. So much of life is learning how to make good decisions and being accountable for them. That not only includes finances but also how to carefully select the friends you decide to spend your time with. I see you doing that with them also and that will serve them well.
The example of your daughter reflects her learning from your guidance and afterall, isn’t that one of our main jobs as parents to teach/guide our kids to learn to make their own decisions and be truly accountable for them. Then they will be ready as young and then mature adults to be good citizens in our society.
Again, i sure seem to ramble, lol.
BlackSamurai摩天楼 says
just a question – how did you calculate the 8% part? specifically mentioned here:
“Earned an 8% total return after fees, taxes, etc.”
is that something that is calculated or just a number that is just picked randomly? i know it can be any number, but the logic behind it is unclear to me at the moment 🙂
ESI says
I picked it randomly. It’s a fair estimate of what someone could earn based on past performance numbers.
Dan says
Is that a nominal or real rate of return (i.e., with or without inflation included)?
ESI says
It actually could be either — as I said, i picked it randomly.
The point isn’t a specific/given rate. The point is that time is the biggest factor in determining your investing success.
BlackSamurai摩天楼 says
the rate of return is the section that always gets me haha.
Pete says
Where does one get an 8% return every year? Lets talk about that!
ESI says
Well, first of all, I get 10% every year on my real estate investments. Details here:
https://esimoney.com/financial-details-of-my-real-estate-investments/
Second, and I don’t know if you’re trying to be snarky or not, but it sounds like it, you don’t get 8% EVERY YEAR in the stock market (if that’s what you’re asking). Some years you get 20%, some you get 3%, some you lose 10%, and so forth. Invest for a long period of time and 8% is a reasonable return (stats will say the average is more like 10%).