ESI Money

Three Simple Steps to Wealth

  • About
  • Earn
  • Save
  • Invest
  • Retirement
  • Millionaires
  • Archives
  • Subscribe
  • Contact

My Jobs, Working for a Maniac

This post may contain affiliate links. Please read my disclosure statement for more info.

October 25, 2016 By ESI 8 Comments

I’ve now shared details on five of my jobs and what I’ve learned through each of them.

If you’d like to re-read any, they are as follows:

  • My Jobs, Pre-College
  • My Jobs, College
  • My Jobs, Graduate School
  • My Jobs, Introduction to the Real World
  • My Jobs, Second Job a Winner

If you recall, at the end of the last post in this series I talked about a few issues. Since these play a big role in my next job, let me reiterate them here. I said:

  • I had one General Manager that just didn’t like me (for whatever reason — ever have one of those?) and he was rude to me from day #1. Thankfully he was in another division and I didn’t have to see him much.
  • Hard work plus luck equals promotion. I worked hard at my job and had some major accomplishments that got noticed by those higher up in the company. That with a combination of being in the right place at the right time and making one lucky statement got me promoted to an even higher position.

Now for the details.

I was doing well in my job and was responsible for some of the biggest programs our company was running dollar-wise. These were highly visible efforts and when they went very well, my accomplishments were noticed. In addition, fate turned in my direction.

The company took some of the businesses from two other divisions and formed them into one major division. The Vice President of my division was made President of the new division. And since he needed new managers to run his businesses, he knew me, and I had done well, I was on the shortlist for consideration.

Under the President of the new division, there were two General Managers. One of them (we’ll call him “Rude”) was the guy I reference above that disliked me. The other (we’ll call him “Maniac”) was a new “go getter” from outside the company. There were spots open reporting to each of these guys. (BTW, at this point I knew Rude was rude, but no one knew Maniac was a maniac.) Rude certainly wasn’t going to hire me — he hired all his cronies from his last spot. But Maniac was new and didn’t have any pre-conceived notions about potential new hires. So I was placed on an interview list of three people for one job opening that reported to Maniac. The three were me, a good friend of mine working on the same business I was on (who had been there longer than I had and was a good friend of Rude as well), and some other guy I can’t remember.

We all had interviews with Maniac. Mine was at a dinner. At this point, he seemed like a good guy and someone I could learn a lot from (his maniac nature was in hiding.) While talking to him, I was brutally honest and said I would enjoy working with him, but I was nervous about working in a division where Rude was such a big part of the management. And under no circumstances would I want to work for Rude.

As I said, at this point I thought Maniac was a fine manager. What I didn’t know was that he was the sort that wanted to kill all his potential competitors for the next rung on the ladder. So when I said I disliked Rude, this was music to Maniac’s ears — I was as good as hired. In addition, when my friend (really the best candidate) who also interviewed for the spot said that he liked Rude, his hopes were doomed. Now we didn’t know any of this at the time. But looking back and putting the pieces together, this is how I’m sure it came down.

A week after the interviews, my boss came in and said that Maniac wanted me to work for him. I said he must be mistaken, that they would certainly want my friend. My boss said “No, they want you. You need to call Human Resources right away.” So I did. A few hours later I was promoted to oversee a $30 million business, had one person reporting to me (my first direct report), secured a 12% pay increase plus a bonus, and was on my way to a new building across the street.

The new division was in rough shape financially and this was the last chance for several businesses to be turned around or go away. Mine was one of these. It was the smallest of those reporting to Maniac which was both a blessing (Maniac focused on the other businesses) and a curse (not much money for me to work with). But I worked hard (back to 70-hour weeks) and we slowly had some success. After a few months, things had stabilized and even began to grow. It also started to settle down a bit and I even got to spend some time at home with my new bride (I was married and returned from my honeymoon to this new job.)

But Maniac was becoming more and more of a nightmare — not only for me, but for the others who reported to him and others in the company that didn’t. He just had one of those “I know everything” attitudes that some people who don’t know anything have. In addition, he was a clear power monger and was willing to do whatever it took to whoever he could to get ahead. Anything that went right, he took the credit. Anything that went wrong, others were to blame.

Personally, I was spared from much of his wrath simply because my business was so small. Why work on a $30 million business when he had $400 million in other businesses to play with? However, we did have our moments.

Maniac was the only person in my career I remember screaming at in anger. It was after he had delayed a project of mine for the fourth time simply because he didn’t want to make a decision. I blew up at him in his office one Saturday morning and yelled that if he didn’t make a decision, we’d be late for this project and the whole business could collapse. He was stunned at my rebuke and asked me if I “needed a minute to compose myself.” I said I did not — that I needed a manager who could make a timely decision. As you might imagine, this didn’t sit too well with him. But he did finally make a decision and even the one I had recommended and argued for. And, from that day on, he was much more attentive to my requests.

Those are the highlights of this very colorful job. Here’s what I learned doing it:

  • Luck is a factor in career success. This seems to be a recurring theme. Yes, you need to work hard, deliver accomplishments, and push your career ahead, but sometimes it’s pure and simple luck that catapults you forward. Unfortunately, as we’ve also seen as well, “luck” works in the opposite direction too, and it can crush you despite all your efforts to make good. I was lucky twice in getting this promotion: I was in the right place at the right time to be considered for a new division position and my mention of disliking Rude was a huge reason I got hired.
  • Problems present opportunities (aka “some of the best opportunities are the riskiest.) When there are problems with businesses, companies, markets, etc., there are huge career opportunities for those who can fix these problems. If you’re willing to take on some risk and work through some tough times, you can really propel your career ahead quickly. For me, I could have played it safe and stayed at my old position, but I jumped ship into a raging storm and made the business better. It was a big step up for me career-wise and one I’d repeat a few times at other companies.
  • Ultimately, you have to take a stand. I don’t advocate yelling at your boss or even disagreeing with him strongly to the point of confrontation, but sometimes it can’t be helped — you have to tell it like it is and let the cards fall where they may. Of course there are degrees to this point and in most cases you can make a stand without being upset or making the person feel you dislike them/their opinion.

That’s it for this job, but you’re really going to love the next post in this series. In it, I’ll tell how my division decided to reorganize after eight months, how I ended up reporting to Rude (yikes!), how I was put in charge of $500 million in businesses, how I won a national award for my work there, and how it all came crashing down two years later.

For the next post in this series, see My Jobs, Promotion, Success, and Failure.

Filed Under: About, Career

Don’t Miss a Post

ESI Money is about helping you grow your net worth. The path to get there involves three simple steps starting with the letters E-S-I. You can read more about the site, the author, and keys to becoming wealthy here.

You can sign up to receive ESI Money articles via email or by RSS. For email newsletter subscriptions or RSS updates updates, visit this link.

Comments

  1. DC says

    October 25, 2016 at 4:40 am

    Really looking forward to the next posts in this series, especially the failures (learning experiences!) and difficulties of working with a boss you don’t mesh well with. After having experienced it a few times myself I firmly believe that “luck” is at the intersection of a proven track record/preparedness (and everything that goes into them) and timing. I once landed a temporary spot on a different continent for a few months simply because I overheard a conversation and immediately, almost unconsciously, blurted out my extreme interest. On paper I didn’t have the senior credentials or tenure they were looking for in target applicants to share the opportunity with but I was on the right team at the right time and had proven to be a capable employee so I was accepted as a candidate and got the job.

    Reply
    • DC says

      October 25, 2016 at 4:51 am

      *Edit*

      After having experienced it a few times myself I firmly believe that “luck” is at the intersection of being prepared and timing. This includes having a proven track record and being in good standing with some of the right people so that when opportunities are presented you are in a position to take advantage of them.

      Reply
  2. The Green Swan says

    October 25, 2016 at 6:05 am

    Wow, that’s great it worked out for you to get that promotion and certainly an interesting situation with Maniac! I’ve never raised my voice with anyone in the office, but I’ve definitely had a number of stern / awkward conversations. But as awkward as they are, sometimes you just can’t avoid them.

    I look forward to the next part!

    Reply
  3. Matt Warnert says

    October 25, 2016 at 7:31 am

    I’m really enjoying these job related posts. You’ve got a ton of interesting lessons to learn. I’m looking forward to more.

    Reply
  4. Jon @ Be Net Worthy says

    October 25, 2016 at 11:08 am

    Great stuff ESI! Two thoughts. One, it’s amazing how many dysfunctional personalities get so far ahead in certain organizations, e.g. Rude and Maniac. And two, I like how you acknowledge the role of luck in one’s career.

    Yes, you have to work hard and be prepared, but some days luck will be with you and some days it won’t. The trick is to keep persevering and pushing ahead even when things get unlucky.

    I’ve definitely seen my share of “rogue” VPs in my day.

    Reply
  5. Mike H says

    October 26, 2016 at 4:22 am

    Great post. I really like reading these as well. It looks like you got a good “education” early on in your career. It’s funny how all these personalities really make perfect sense in hindsight but you have to live through it to appreciate it. Such is life.

    Mike

    Reply
  6. Tony P. says

    October 26, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    The Peter Principle (yep, that old book) really does apply. Problem is, for whatever reason, sometimes they leak through their level of competence and end up another level higher. Seems to result in disaster whenever that happens.

    I had a boss once who was a hardware guy, and he was good at it. Problem was, technology was changing and he didn’t understand a world where software was the product and hardware was just something the software ran on.

    A buddy of his got him promoted to run our project. He insisted we apply Six Sigma hardware design principles to software development. We ended up with a 29 gate process to get a release out the door, all in the name of “getting our software right the first time”. Result was that software development ground to a halt. Everyone spent all their time in meetings arguing about the initial spec while the customer requirements kept changing because the competitors features kept improving. A software patch we needed overnight took three months; a new release actually never made it. We just started patching in new features (any software guy can tell you how that worked out, longer term).

    My team was frustrated, my customers were looking at other products and the sales and marketing guys were quitting because they couldn’t make any sales. I finally had enough and cornered him in his corner office. We ended up shouting at each other. In the end he pointed to his Six Sigma Black Belt certificate and said he knew what he was doing and I should shut up and do as I was told.

    Two months later, I worked at another company. Along with most of my team. Last I checked, his division had been sold off and he was sending out resumes.

    We do Agile now, by the way. And if I see Six Sigma on a resume, it goes in the trash…

    Reply
  7. PatientWealth says

    October 26, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    I couldn’t agree more with you that luck is a big factor in success. But I also have read and have seen in my own situation that you can “create your own luck” by doing your best, having a good attitude, building and continuing important relationships, and generally being professional and showing up. Its amazing how the people factor is such a big factor in “creating your own luck.” Interesting post – thanks for sharing!

    Reply

Leave a Reply Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Search This Site

Social Media

Twitter

Instagram

Facebook

YouTube

Recent Posts

  • Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 10
  • Millionaire Interview Update 74
  • Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 9
  • Millionaire Interview 456
  • Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 8
  • Millionaire Interview 455
  • Happy New Year 2026
  • Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 7
  • Merry Christmas 2025
  • Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 6

Recent Comments

  • Jared on ESI Scale Interview 6
  • PhDonFIRE on Millionaire Interview Update 74
  • M on Millionaire Interview Update 74
  • RJ on Millionaire Interview Update 74
  • MI_263 on Millionaire Interview Update 74
  • MI456 on Millionaire Interview 456
  • MI456 on Millionaire Interview 456
  • Retired Nomad on Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 9
  • Maverick on Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 9
  • pat on Millionaire Wisdom: How to Grow Net Worth, Part 9

Categories

Archives

Copyright © 2026 · ESI Money · About · Disclaimer · Earning Notice · Privacy Statement · Contact